Intel CES Presentation Live Blog

This is a live blog for Intel’s CES presentation. Intel is expected to reveal details about Tiger Lake mobile CPUs, the DG1 discrete GPU, Comet Lake desktop CPUs, and upcoming projects concerning cloud, networking, and AI technology. See details here.

Event
Intel CES Presentation
Start time
7 PM EST
Event status
Finished
Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

Well put, and with that, that's the end of this live blog, thank god. We'll see you guys next time, probably at Computex.

Jim
2 years ago

Well, final thoughts...

I wasn't particularly surprised at either of tonight's presentations.  AMD's did have a lot more focus on the PC as expected.  Both of them are clearly interested more in the mobile space though Intel didn't show a single desktop part in the whole night, that I can recall.

Some of the demonstrations were alright but a pale shadow of previous CES.  I guess they are either keeping their cards close to their chests or they really have nothing much "new" to show at this point.

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

Tiger Lake is a summer product so I expect DG1 to come around the same time, it's just a shame they didn't give us much if anything to speculate on. No figures of any sort other than what we already knew in the first place.

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

Overall, Intel's show was really boring I guess. Barely anything of substance was shown. I wish they showed more Tiger Lake and DG1 but I guess it's just not ready, huh?

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

Okay, so what did we learn today?

Jim
2 years ago

DG1 demo reminded me of some Vega stuff, it was that short.

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

And it's gone.

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

Wait it's ending?

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

That looks like 720p though, maybe 1080p, hard to tell.

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

Mobile form factor running Destiny 2.

Jim
2 years ago

Tiger Lake - Doubling graphics performance and industry-leading AI performance.

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

DG1!

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

Tiger Lake coming this summer.

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

They've stopped talking about Tiger Lake, now they're on image unblurring.

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

Looks at least 30 FPS though...

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

Tiger Lake running Warframe but no details...

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

Twice the graphics performance of Ice Lake. Gaming level.

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

Comes with Xe Graphics.

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

Now I wonder if that extra die is something to with IO or the GPU.

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

Looks about as big as Renoir.

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

So that foldable laptop was a Tiger Lake laptop.

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

Thunderbolt 4?

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

Finally! Something that's actually interesting! Please show us something cool!

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

Yes they're showing Tiger Lake!

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

How in the world was the best part of the show when Adobe came up on stage?!

Jim
2 years ago

Ok I'm back, yeah he's actually quite good.

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

Jim, this is easily the best and most memorable part.

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

Adobe got the biggest applause so far, by a landslide. They need to hire this guy for their presentations.

Jim
2 years ago

Too cringey for me to watch, let me know when it's moved on to something else.

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

This Adobe guy has more energy than the whole Intel team combined, why?

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

Too much of this presentation is Intel piggybacking on their partners' cool stuff.

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

Nevermind, it's just Adobe...

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

Okay CPUs, finally.

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

I'm just unsure what's new about it, what did Intel add to the experience that made it possible? Was it not possible before?

Jim
2 years ago

This one looks pretty cool at least.

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

A new category of foldable devices, horseshoe bend.

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

Horseshoe-bend platform?

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

I'm not super sure this dual screen design for laptops will catch on but maybe I'm wrong and it will.

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

So some dual screen Dell laptops.

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

But didn't mention what they helped on with engineering... so is it using Lakefield or not?

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

This sounds alot like the Surface Neo which uses Lakefield... so this also uses Lakefield?

Jim
2 years ago

The worlds first foldable PC.

"Full performance" apparently.

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

World's first foldable PC.

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

Lenovo exec is up on stage, talking about a dual screen device.

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

Lakefield?

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

I guess Intel has the problem of having a ton of technologies as well.

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

Yea, I appreciate laptops but they have barely shown any hardware through the entire presentation.

Jim
2 years ago

Notice all the talk is about style over substance.

Jim
2 years ago

Athena, not just throwing money per-se but yes, working on the "ecosystem".  Essentially it's about making better form factors and all that, with less emphasis on CPU and GPU performance...figures.

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

So more Intel Chromebooks, yay.

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

Are they actually gonna talk what's in these laptops? They're just showing off laptops.

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

Or is it Intel helping design some cool laptops?

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

So, I never understood what Project Athena is to be honest. Is it just MDF?

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

So no Comet Lake announcement?

Jim
2 years ago

5 "PCs" shown, none were desktops...

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

They did say "Xe graphics"!

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

Please show us Tiger Lake and DG1 and not beaten dead 9th and 10th gen CPUs.

Jim
2 years ago

Gregory Bryant - executive vice president and general manager of the Client Computing Group

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

PC, yes, something that might be interesting.

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

Save us Gregory, please.

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

I have a feeling EA might want some of this technology though.

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

This part of the presentation reminds me alot of the Xbox One reveal where they showed off all these features with Kinect and voice recognition, but those ended up not amounting to anything because they were just novelties and gimmicks.

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

I get that more interaction with content sounds cool, but the question is whether or not people will care and if it's feasible as a generally available technology.

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

In the background I can see a laptop running what looks like a video game and there's MSI AB in the top left corner...

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

I could see this multi perspective, 3D video of sports games working on YouTube, they have the 360 degree videos.

Jim
2 years ago

Ok so pretty cool, guess we're finally getting close to Blade Runner technology.

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

I just don't see this taking off, this seems so incredibly niche that there's just almost no chance the average consumer is gonna be able to take advantage of it. Will you need a dedicated console or something?

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

So Intel is looking to make a sort of action replay where the viewer can control the athletes with a controller.

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

Oh wait this is normal sports, that's fine too I guess.

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

I'll take esports, that's fine with me.

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

Intel's XE HPC presentation was great even though I'm not an enthusiasts of all the other things Intel is getting into. This just isn't doing it for me.

Jim
2 years ago

"Intel Sports"...what the...

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

I'm fine with AI and cars and FPGAs but there's just no content here.

Jim
2 years ago

It's a different focus Matthew, I've been talking about this in videos for years.  Both Intel and Nvidia have zero care about classical computing.  AMD only cares so long as it suits them.

We're all to blame for losing our grip on technology.  If the markets were distributed more evenly, they'd all be trying a bit harder in every department.

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

This motion tracking and athlete thing sounds like Kinect which was released a decade ago.

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

I have no actual product to critique here so I'm forced to critique what's being shown to me which is basically just a bunch of filler.

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

This presentation is really boring, I'm not gonna lie. AMD's wasn't super exciting but at least they were showing us stuff of substance, that substance just happened to be a tad boring at times.

Jim
2 years ago

There's a lot of talk but we're not seeing a whole lot.  If AI is to be sold to consumers it'll take some seeing, not just hearing.

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

I will point out that AMD is not really focusing on AI and if they want to get into it, they need to get into it now and not later, otherwise they'll be missing out entirely.

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

He's talking about Xeon but honestly it's not that exciting.

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

The NNPI is apparently alot faster than anything else on the market but of course grain of salt and all that.

Jim
2 years ago

This is Intel's "XPU" he's talking about now.

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

Moving on to AI.

Jim
2 years ago

Clear difference in quality between the codecs, as usual it's wise to take marketing with a grain of salt and wait for independent verification.

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

Codecs are important though, case in point NVENC for Turing GPUs.

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

So nothing about hardware has been discussed in this entire Netflix segment, just talking about this new codec (which I accidentally called a decoding program, oops).

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

What's interesting is that Netflix was looking into Epyc Rome, I wonder if that's not happening anymore or if they'll have both Xeon and Epyc.

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

So Intel and Netflix are creating a decoding program specifically for Xeon. And now they have a Netflix person coming up.

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

So this is about streaming I guess.

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

Sorry, not Gregory, Navin Shenoy.

Jim
2 years ago

Up now, Navin Shenoy - executive vice president and general manager of the Data Platforms Group

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

Gregory Bryant is here though, so maybe we'll finally see some products?

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

Bob's presentation was touching but that doesn't change the fact that he basically talked about nothing Intel.

Jim
2 years ago

Nice shout-out to those affected by the horrible situation in Australia.

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

But I don't know if I would trust Intel to have my back if a hurricane hit Tennessee.

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

Well to be fair Jim, with climate change they are changing, meaning they're getting alot worse.

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

Jim
2 years ago

"Disasters are changing", that's quite a claim.

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

For context, they're talking about how Red Cross and Intel is making digital maps for unmapped areas in lower developed countries.

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

I would hope an Intel computer could make a map better than a person.

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

He's nice but he just doesn't have any energy.

Jim
2 years ago

Bob Swan comes across as a nice guy, unlike most of Intel's more recent CEO's.

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

Bob is breaking the "show don't tell rule" so hard... just show us cool stuff, not talk about how you're gonna show it.

Jim
2 years ago

Don't forget they paid $15.3 billion for Mobileye.  Acquiring and integrating tech is not the same than having developed the expertise in-house.

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

I guess AI cars are kinda cool though.

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

Bob Swan's presentation is a little lethargic compared to Lisa Su's, or anyone from AMD. I hope Gregory Bryant is a little better.

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

Saving lives with Mobileye... that's why they bought it. Money has nothing to do with it.

Jim
2 years ago

It's interesting to see how much like an Nvidia presentation from 2-3 years ago this is.

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

So we're focusing on transportation right now...

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

"We're only just getting started"

That's something AMD says alot, I just wonder if Intel is copying or being sincere.

Jim
2 years ago

Problem is Intel are only just getting started...others started a long, long time ago.

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

"We are simply embedding intelligence in everything we do"

I would hope so...

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

Now we're getting into something... "these three technologies are not standalone, they are reinforcing."

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

So many words are being said, yet not a whole lot of meaning is being conveyed... what is Bob Swan talking about?

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

"We are only just getting started with data created by AI"

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

Zettabyte is a thing, yes.

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

Jim
2 years ago

Zettabytes?

Jim
2 years ago

You always notice a difference between Intel and AMD presentations.  Intel's are always a bit more "money" and "business-like".

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

I think they said that before 10nm was designed.

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

"Our ambitions are rather big... but we've been at this for a while"

Jim
2 years ago

Oh nice, I like the way it paused at "Intel" before adding "ligence".

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

Immediately I can see a ton of laptops, I bet they're gonna show us the same marketing we saw earlier today.

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

This voice over sounds dystopian to me for some reason.

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

I feel like I'm watching a movie trailer, but I guess that's okay.

Jim
2 years ago

Opening with AI

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

And it's starts now.

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

Jim that joke is as old as 14nm.

Jim
2 years ago

The presentation is running a little bit late...nothing as bad as 10nm though (yet).

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

Yea this headline is not fitting Intel at all.

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

If I see DG1 and Tiger Lake I will be happy, I can suffer through everything else.

Jim
2 years ago

"Innovation Through Intelligence"

Jim
2 years ago

Here we go...

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

Interestingly, Tom's has Tiger Lake and Xe Graphics in the headline for its coverage so maybe that's a good sign of things to come?

Jim
2 years ago

There's been quite a lot of change in that 2 months as well.  Chris Hook and Heather Lennon are no longer there.  All the news/info I've heard has been bad.  I really am rooting for the GPU division though and I'm happy to see Ashraf Eassa getting a promotion.

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

These elevator tracks actually really define the differences in Intel and AMD. I can just hear the Intel in this music.

Jim
2 years ago

Who had the best elevator music, Intel or AMD?  I think I marginally prefer Intel's.

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

Our sources did tell us DG1 would be talked about at CES but that was over 2 months ago and that was probably based on when it was estimated to release.

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

E3 is a little interesting, surely it'll have to be something like the Ryzen 4000 segment of AMD's CES presentation, because otherwise it'll be really boring if it's just the DG1.

Jim
2 years ago

Well Intel has Gregory Bryant as part of the show so hopefully we'll get some better news on PC.  Regarding graphics, my information is E3 is the next time we'll hear a lot.

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

Now, I'm hoping we'll at least get something about the DG1 but if Tiger Lake is a no show then DG1 might be as well.

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

Basically, 10nm desktop has been canceled, Tiger Lake is gonna be a quad core with good gaming graphics, all the good stuff Intel is waiting on will be on 7nm, DG1 is the same GPU as the Tiger Lake iGPU, and DG1/Tiger Lake will have 96 EUs. You can skim through the articles in the 6 minutes we have before the presentation starts.

Jim
2 years ago

Oh yeah I remember reading that earlier today, but that "they'll (Nvidia) be back in future".

Nothing to show or just don't care any more...

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

Intel 10nm desktop canceled, Tiger Lake, and 7nm leak: https://adoredtv.com/exclusive-intel-to-skip-10nm-on-the-desktop-tiger-lake-reportedly-powerful-mobile-gaming-processor-intel-betting-it-all-on-7nm-and-more/

DG1 and Tiger Lake iGPU the same leak: https://adoredtv.com/benchmark-on-intels-upcoming-gen-12-mobile-graphics-leaks/

DG1 to have 96 EUs: https://adoredtv.com/intels-dg1-gpu-to-launch-with-96-eus-according-to-new-leak/

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

Nvidia doesn't even have a presentation.

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

I'm gonna drop some links to our Intel leaks since that has been very interesting so far.

Jim
2 years ago

Pretty sure Nvidia will be "cars, AI, some more cars".

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

This CES just didn't align properly with any of AMD, Nvidia's, or Intel's projects it seems.

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

I have a terrible, terrible feeling the PC section is just gonna be trashy marketing like we saw earlier today. I hope I'm wrong but...

Jim
2 years ago

I've heard a few comments suggesting this CES has been pretty unexciting so far.  Sign of the times I guess.

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

None of this really interests me except PC and maybe edge... but I read that Tiger Lake probably won't get much attention since it's a little too far out, and we haven't heard about DG1.

Jim
2 years ago

Well, my expectations are fairly low given what is on their website.

They will highlight how Intel is infusing intelligence across the cloud, network, edge and PC. The conference will bring to life several of Intel’s latest advancements focused on creating broad positive impact for people, business and society.

Matthew Connatser
2 years ago

Welcome to the Intel CES Presentation live blog, the presentation will begin in 15 minutes. Until it starts, we're just going to have a little pre show mostly talking about expectations and opinions.

Jim
2 years ago

Alright guys...we're back again with another CES presentation, this time it's Intel.

You can watch it through this link.

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