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Intel CES Presentation Live Blog

This is a live blog for Intel’s CES presentation. Intel is expected to reveal details about Tiger Lake mobile CPUs, the DG1 discrete GPU, Comet Lake desktop CPUs, and upcoming projects concerning cloud, networking, and AI technology. See details here.

Event
Intel CES Presentation
Start time
7 PM EST
Event status
Finished
Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Well put, and with that, that's the end of this live blog, thank god. We'll see you guys next time, probably at Computex.

Jim
10 months ago

Well, final thoughts...

I wasn't particularly surprised at either of tonight's presentations.  AMD's did have a lot more focus on the PC as expected.  Both of them are clearly interested more in the mobile space though Intel didn't show a single desktop part in the whole night, that I can recall.

Some of the demonstrations were alright but a pale shadow of previous CES.  I guess they are either keeping their cards close to their chests or they really have nothing much "new" to show at this point.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Tiger Lake is a summer product so I expect DG1 to come around the same time, it's just a shame they didn't give us much if anything to speculate on. No figures of any sort other than what we already knew in the first place.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Overall, Intel's show was really boring I guess. Barely anything of substance was shown. I wish they showed more Tiger Lake and DG1 but I guess it's just not ready, huh?

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Okay, so what did we learn today?

Jim
10 months ago

DG1 demo reminded me of some Vega stuff, it was that short.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

And it's gone.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Wait it's ending?

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

That looks like 720p though, maybe 1080p, hard to tell.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Mobile form factor running Destiny 2.

Jim
10 months ago

Tiger Lake - Doubling graphics performance and industry-leading AI performance.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

DG1!

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Tiger Lake coming this summer.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

They've stopped talking about Tiger Lake, now they're on image unblurring.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Looks at least 30 FPS though...

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Tiger Lake running Warframe but no details...

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Twice the graphics performance of Ice Lake. Gaming level.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Comes with Xe Graphics.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Now I wonder if that extra die is something to with IO or the GPU.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Looks about as big as Renoir.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

So that foldable laptop was a Tiger Lake laptop.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Thunderbolt 4?

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Finally! Something that's actually interesting! Please show us something cool!

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Yes they're showing Tiger Lake!

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

How in the world was the best part of the show when Adobe came up on stage?!

Jim
10 months ago

Ok I'm back, yeah he's actually quite good.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Jim, this is easily the best and most memorable part.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Adobe got the biggest applause so far, by a landslide. They need to hire this guy for their presentations.

Jim
10 months ago

Too cringey for me to watch, let me know when it's moved on to something else.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

This Adobe guy has more energy than the whole Intel team combined, why?

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Too much of this presentation is Intel piggybacking on their partners' cool stuff.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Nevermind, it's just Adobe...

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Okay CPUs, finally.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

I'm just unsure what's new about it, what did Intel add to the experience that made it possible? Was it not possible before?

Jim
10 months ago

This one looks pretty cool at least.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

A new category of foldable devices, horseshoe bend.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Horseshoe-bend platform?

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

I'm not super sure this dual screen design for laptops will catch on but maybe I'm wrong and it will.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

So some dual screen Dell laptops.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

But didn't mention what they helped on with engineering... so is it using Lakefield or not?

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

This sounds alot like the Surface Neo which uses Lakefield... so this also uses Lakefield?

Jim
10 months ago

The worlds first foldable PC.

"Full performance" apparently.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

World's first foldable PC.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Lenovo exec is up on stage, talking about a dual screen device.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Lakefield?

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

I guess Intel has the problem of having a ton of technologies as well.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Yea, I appreciate laptops but they have barely shown any hardware through the entire presentation.

Jim
10 months ago

Notice all the talk is about style over substance.

Jim
10 months ago

Athena, not just throwing money per-se but yes, working on the "ecosystem".  Essentially it's about making better form factors and all that, with less emphasis on CPU and GPU performance...figures.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

So more Intel Chromebooks, yay.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Are they actually gonna talk what's in these laptops? They're just showing off laptops.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Or is it Intel helping design some cool laptops?

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

So, I never understood what Project Athena is to be honest. Is it just MDF?

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

So no Comet Lake announcement?

Jim
10 months ago

5 "PCs" shown, none were desktops...

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

They did say "Xe graphics"!

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Please show us Tiger Lake and DG1 and not beaten dead 9th and 10th gen CPUs.

Jim
10 months ago

Gregory Bryant - executive vice president and general manager of the Client Computing Group

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

PC, yes, something that might be interesting.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Save us Gregory, please.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

I have a feeling EA might want some of this technology though.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

This part of the presentation reminds me alot of the Xbox One reveal where they showed off all these features with Kinect and voice recognition, but those ended up not amounting to anything because they were just novelties and gimmicks.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

I get that more interaction with content sounds cool, but the question is whether or not people will care and if it's feasible as a generally available technology.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

In the background I can see a laptop running what looks like a video game and there's MSI AB in the top left corner...

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

I could see this multi perspective, 3D video of sports games working on YouTube, they have the 360 degree videos.

Jim
10 months ago

Ok so pretty cool, guess we're finally getting close to Blade Runner technology.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

I just don't see this taking off, this seems so incredibly niche that there's just almost no chance the average consumer is gonna be able to take advantage of it. Will you need a dedicated console or something?

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

So Intel is looking to make a sort of action replay where the viewer can control the athletes with a controller.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Oh wait this is normal sports, that's fine too I guess.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

I'll take esports, that's fine with me.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Intel's XE HPC presentation was great even though I'm not an enthusiasts of all the other things Intel is getting into. This just isn't doing it for me.

Jim
10 months ago

"Intel Sports"...what the...

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

I'm fine with AI and cars and FPGAs but there's just no content here.

Jim
10 months ago

It's a different focus Matthew, I've been talking about this in videos for years.  Both Intel and Nvidia have zero care about classical computing.  AMD only cares so long as it suits them.

We're all to blame for losing our grip on technology.  If the markets were distributed more evenly, they'd all be trying a bit harder in every department.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

This motion tracking and athlete thing sounds like Kinect which was released a decade ago.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

I have no actual product to critique here so I'm forced to critique what's being shown to me which is basically just a bunch of filler.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

This presentation is really boring, I'm not gonna lie. AMD's wasn't super exciting but at least they were showing us stuff of substance, that substance just happened to be a tad boring at times.

Jim
10 months ago

There's a lot of talk but we're not seeing a whole lot.  If AI is to be sold to consumers it'll take some seeing, not just hearing.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

I will point out that AMD is not really focusing on AI and if they want to get into it, they need to get into it now and not later, otherwise they'll be missing out entirely.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

He's talking about Xeon but honestly it's not that exciting.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

The NNPI is apparently alot faster than anything else on the market but of course grain of salt and all that.

Jim
10 months ago

This is Intel's "XPU" he's talking about now.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Moving on to AI.

Jim
10 months ago

Clear difference in quality between the codecs, as usual it's wise to take marketing with a grain of salt and wait for independent verification.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Codecs are important though, case in point NVENC for Turing GPUs.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

So nothing about hardware has been discussed in this entire Netflix segment, just talking about this new codec (which I accidentally called a decoding program, oops).

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

What's interesting is that Netflix was looking into Epyc Rome, I wonder if that's not happening anymore or if they'll have both Xeon and Epyc.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

So Intel and Netflix are creating a decoding program specifically for Xeon. And now they have a Netflix person coming up.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

So this is about streaming I guess.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Sorry, not Gregory, Navin Shenoy.

Jim
10 months ago

Up now, Navin Shenoy - executive vice president and general manager of the Data Platforms Group

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Gregory Bryant is here though, so maybe we'll finally see some products?

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Bob's presentation was touching but that doesn't change the fact that he basically talked about nothing Intel.

Jim
10 months ago

Nice shout-out to those affected by the horrible situation in Australia.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

But I don't know if I would trust Intel to have my back if a hurricane hit Tennessee.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Well to be fair Jim, with climate change they are changing, meaning they're getting alot worse.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Jim
10 months ago

"Disasters are changing", that's quite a claim.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

For context, they're talking about how Red Cross and Intel is making digital maps for unmapped areas in lower developed countries.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

I would hope an Intel computer could make a map better than a person.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

He's nice but he just doesn't have any energy.

Jim
10 months ago

Bob Swan comes across as a nice guy, unlike most of Intel's more recent CEO's.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Bob is breaking the "show don't tell rule" so hard... just show us cool stuff, not talk about how you're gonna show it.

Jim
10 months ago

Don't forget they paid $15.3 billion for Mobileye.  Acquiring and integrating tech is not the same than having developed the expertise in-house.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

I guess AI cars are kinda cool though.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Bob Swan's presentation is a little lethargic compared to Lisa Su's, or anyone from AMD. I hope Gregory Bryant is a little better.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Saving lives with Mobileye... that's why they bought it. Money has nothing to do with it.

Jim
10 months ago

It's interesting to see how much like an Nvidia presentation from 2-3 years ago this is.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

So we're focusing on transportation right now...

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

"We're only just getting started"

That's something AMD says alot, I just wonder if Intel is copying or being sincere.

Jim
10 months ago

Problem is Intel are only just getting started...others started a long, long time ago.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

"We are simply embedding intelligence in everything we do"

I would hope so...

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Now we're getting into something... "these three technologies are not standalone, they are reinforcing."

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

So many words are being said, yet not a whole lot of meaning is being conveyed... what is Bob Swan talking about?

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

"We are only just getting started with data created by AI"

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Zettabyte is a thing, yes.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Jim
10 months ago

Zettabytes?

Jim
10 months ago

You always notice a difference between Intel and AMD presentations.  Intel's are always a bit more "money" and "business-like".

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

I think they said that before 10nm was designed.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

"Our ambitions are rather big... but we've been at this for a while"

Jim
10 months ago

Oh nice, I like the way it paused at "Intel" before adding "ligence".

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Immediately I can see a ton of laptops, I bet they're gonna show us the same marketing we saw earlier today.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

This voice over sounds dystopian to me for some reason.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

I feel like I'm watching a movie trailer, but I guess that's okay.

Jim
10 months ago

Opening with AI

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

And it's starts now.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Jim that joke is as old as 14nm.

Jim
10 months ago

The presentation is running a little bit late...nothing as bad as 10nm though (yet).

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Yea this headline is not fitting Intel at all.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

If I see DG1 and Tiger Lake I will be happy, I can suffer through everything else.

Jim
10 months ago

"Innovation Through Intelligence"

Jim
10 months ago

Here we go...

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Interestingly, Tom's has Tiger Lake and Xe Graphics in the headline for its coverage so maybe that's a good sign of things to come?

Jim
10 months ago

There's been quite a lot of change in that 2 months as well.  Chris Hook and Heather Lennon are no longer there.  All the news/info I've heard has been bad.  I really am rooting for the GPU division though and I'm happy to see Ashraf Eassa getting a promotion.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

These elevator tracks actually really define the differences in Intel and AMD. I can just hear the Intel in this music.

Jim
10 months ago

Who had the best elevator music, Intel or AMD?  I think I marginally prefer Intel's.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Our sources did tell us DG1 would be talked about at CES but that was over 2 months ago and that was probably based on when it was estimated to release.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

E3 is a little interesting, surely it'll have to be something like the Ryzen 4000 segment of AMD's CES presentation, because otherwise it'll be really boring if it's just the DG1.

Jim
10 months ago

Well Intel has Gregory Bryant as part of the show so hopefully we'll get some better news on PC.  Regarding graphics, my information is E3 is the next time we'll hear a lot.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Now, I'm hoping we'll at least get something about the DG1 but if Tiger Lake is a no show then DG1 might be as well.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Basically, 10nm desktop has been canceled, Tiger Lake is gonna be a quad core with good gaming graphics, all the good stuff Intel is waiting on will be on 7nm, DG1 is the same GPU as the Tiger Lake iGPU, and DG1/Tiger Lake will have 96 EUs. You can skim through the articles in the 6 minutes we have before the presentation starts.

Jim
10 months ago

Oh yeah I remember reading that earlier today, but that "they'll (Nvidia) be back in future".

Nothing to show or just don't care any more...

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Intel 10nm desktop canceled, Tiger Lake, and 7nm leak: https://adoredtv.com/exclusive-intel-to-skip-10nm-on-the-desktop-tiger-lake-reportedly-powerful-mobile-gaming-processor-intel-betting-it-all-on-7nm-and-more/

DG1 and Tiger Lake iGPU the same leak: https://adoredtv.com/benchmark-on-intels-upcoming-gen-12-mobile-graphics-leaks/

DG1 to have 96 EUs: https://adoredtv.com/intels-dg1-gpu-to-launch-with-96-eus-according-to-new-leak/

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Nvidia doesn't even have a presentation.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

I'm gonna drop some links to our Intel leaks since that has been very interesting so far.

Jim
10 months ago

Pretty sure Nvidia will be "cars, AI, some more cars".

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

This CES just didn't align properly with any of AMD, Nvidia's, or Intel's projects it seems.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

I have a terrible, terrible feeling the PC section is just gonna be trashy marketing like we saw earlier today. I hope I'm wrong but...

Jim
10 months ago

I've heard a few comments suggesting this CES has been pretty unexciting so far.  Sign of the times I guess.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

None of this really interests me except PC and maybe edge... but I read that Tiger Lake probably won't get much attention since it's a little too far out, and we haven't heard about DG1.

Jim
10 months ago

Well, my expectations are fairly low given what is on their website.

They will highlight how Intel is infusing intelligence across the cloud, network, edge and PC. The conference will bring to life several of Intel’s latest advancements focused on creating broad positive impact for people, business and society.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Welcome to the Intel CES Presentation live blog, the presentation will begin in 15 minutes. Until it starts, we're just going to have a little pre show mostly talking about expectations and opinions.

Jim
10 months ago

Alright guys...we're back again with another CES presentation, this time it's Intel.

You can watch it through this link.

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