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AMD CES Presentation Live Blog

This is a live blog for AMD’s CES presentation. AMD is expected to reveal details about Ryzen 4000 mobile APUs, 48 and 64 core Threadripper CPUs, upcoming Radeon GPUs, and the Zen 3 architecture. See details here.

Event
AMD CES Presentation
Start time
5 PM EST
Event status
Finished
Jim
10 months ago

Cheers guys, catch you later.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Alright guys, looks like that's it for AMD's presentation.

Jim
10 months ago

I wouldn't mind a 3990X to be honest, wonder if I could even make use of 128 threads though.

Kirk Johnson
10 months ago

I think desktop 8c/16t APUs would be wildfire.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

So Renoir seems to be what I'm going to go for in my next laptop, unless Intel shows Tiger Lake doing some really good gaming in their presentation later today. However, it doesn't seem like Intel will be talking about Tiger Lake since it's a ways away.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

I liked the APUs the most, everything else was kind of boring or in line with expectations, which is crazy since AMD revealed a 64 core CPU.

Kirk Johnson
10 months ago

288MB Cache, 2.9GHz base, 4.3GHz boost for 3990X

Jim
10 months ago

Enthusiasts are gonna be disappointed but this is everything I had expected from CES this year.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Well, that's it, decent show I guess.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

And it's over, no Zen 3.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

"Committed to delivering the best in HPC"

Jim
10 months ago

Question is...will there be one last reveal like last year?

Anubias
10 months ago

If you bought a Xeon in 2019... you're burned.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Summary: Intel BTFO

Jim
10 months ago

Intel grimacing at that demo, 64C Threadripper trouncing dual Xeon 8280's.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

"It also might be slightly cheaper, just slightly"

Anubias
10 months ago

TR3 64core destroys Intel Dual Xenon 8280 (1h:03m vs 1h:30m)

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Kirk Johnson
10 months ago

Took all three screens to show the width of the bar for 3990X in Cinebench R20.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

$4K Threadripper beats $20K Xeon.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Jim
10 months ago

Gonna be seeing this chart a lot tomorrow.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Kirk Johnson
10 months ago

$3990 is pretty nice.

Anubias
10 months ago

Yes, 64C Threadripper is coming for the Desktops. I lived to see this too

Jim
10 months ago

Good call @Anubias - $3990

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

There's another slot for this graph... 64 cores.

Jim
10 months ago

AMD reeling out Cinebench R20 again...

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

9900KS at the bottom of this graph, oof.

Kirk Johnson
10 months ago

Pictures of lots of queue lines for launch of Ryzen 3000 and Threadripper.

Kirk Johnson
10 months ago

Hope it's more than just "one more product" 🙂

Jim
10 months ago

So what are we ending with, 64C Threadripper?

Anubias
10 months ago

I'm waiting for the 64 core TR3 being announced...

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

One more product...

Jim
10 months ago

"Triple A (AAA) Advantage" is quite a catchy line I must say.

Kirk Johnson
10 months ago

Dell G5 "special edition" with a Ryzen 4000 APU and SmartShift for $749 "starting"

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Lisa's back, 3990X announcement I bet.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Dell also has this Switch looking PC device that has no confirmed specs, I'm interested in that too.

Jim
10 months ago

@Matthew I think you were right before, it's just more aggressive power management between the CPU cores and GPU cores.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Maybe it is just AMD fixing its power management issues...

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Or is it mGPU? I don't really understand exactly what Smart Shift is but it looks cool.

Jim
10 months ago

"Smartshift", sounds like marketing nonsense for a problem they should have fixed a while ago.

Kirk Johnson
10 months ago

10% performance improvement with SmartShift on, likely sacrificing available CPU headroom to give the GPU more OC.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Actually it looks like mGPU using the APU and dGPU graphics at the same time. Cool.

Anubias
10 months ago

SmartShift technology presented, which allows the CPU and GPU parts of the APU to be individually clocked to save energy

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

So this Smart Shift thing is like Nvidia Optimus?

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Oh AMD has finally managed to fix its power management issues.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Oh god what is this AAA advantage thing?

Anubias
10 months ago

Gimmicky ASUS laptop showed

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Faster than the 9700K, half the TDP. Impressive. I guess it's desktop class for Intel.

Jim
10 months ago

This is lining up nicely for AMD to compare the most efficient Zen 2 mobile silicon vs the extremely inefficient 3800X.  Not cool, AMD.

Kirk Johnson
10 months ago

If you compare it to an Intel 9700K it will... 🙂

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Intel vs. AMD comparisons coming up.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

I mean it has a 45 watt TDP, I don't think it's gonna be desktop class despite Frank's insistence...

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Ryzen 7 4800H incoming.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Okay, gaming laptops up next.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Again emphasis that AMD has both CPUs and GPUs.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Nothing about 4K, I wonder why...

Jim
10 months ago

Frank Azor, ex-Alienware General Manager

Jim
10 months ago

Frank Azor, ex-Alienware

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

And now Frank Azor, formerly of Alienware now AMD.

Anubias
10 months ago

Frank Azor takes the stage

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

"2020 is the year of the gamer"


Rise up please

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Jim
10 months ago

Very muted applause for the card.

Anubias
10 months ago

5600 Jan 20, 279$ worldwide

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

5600XT is gonna be available Jan 21. $279

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

"5600XT is the clear winner"

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Kirk Johnson
10 months ago

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Okay, 5600XT announcement.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Jim
10 months ago

Also worth remembering that CES is very much for "normies" more so than enthusiasts, so we'll see a lot of stuff we know about already.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Finally onto the hardware, that driver section was pretty boring but it was brief at least.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Probably 3990X for last.

Jim
10 months ago

AMD/Lisa tends to save the best for last in these presentations.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Now onto Adrenaline drivers.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

So AMD is wanting to fix its branding issues and refresh FreeSync.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Oh, FreeSync 2 has been axed and replaced by FreeSync Premium and Premium Pro.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

I don't think I see anything about FreeSync 2... is it dead?

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Looks like this section is about FreeSync, Radeon, and the drivers (?).

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

So AMD's now talking about PC gaming, seemingly to do with Radeon.

Jim
10 months ago

"Transforming the laptop market"

Kirk Johnson
10 months ago

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Great, Q1 availability and over a hundred laptops available. I needed to get off my Kaby Lake G laptop.

Anubias
10 months ago

Lisa Su announces over 100 different laptops with 4k CPUs in 2020

Kirk Johnson
10 months ago

Kirk Johnson
10 months ago

Jim
10 months ago

8 GPU cores was the last leak (which I missed in the latest video).  That's very aggressive cutting on die area.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Hmm, I don't know, I think the cores are just disabled for segmentation and power.

Anubias
10 months ago

Lenovo Yoga Slim 7, one of the Laptops to boast a Ryzen 4000 CPU

Jim
10 months ago

So I wonder if there are gonna be two different chips for mobile, perhaps a larger one too?

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

2x more battery life, that was really needed.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Vs. Ice Lake, Renoir is the obvious victor. About 40% faster than the 1065G7.

Kirk Johnson
10 months ago

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

59% more performance per GPU core even though it's still Vega... interesting.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Here's the 4800U: 8/16, up to 4.2 GHz, 1.8 base, 8 GPU cores, 15 watt TDP.

Anubias
10 months ago

R7 4800U: 8 Zen cores, 4.2 GHz, 8 Radeon cores, 15W

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

AMD is saying they're on par with Intel right now but that might be a little generous.

Kirk Johnson
10 months ago

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

The performance is of course determined by Cinebench.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

So AMD is putting themselves above Intel on this performance graph for performance in 2018.

Jim
10 months ago

Lisa holding up Mobile Ryzen 4000, looks like a pretty small chip.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Ryzen 4000 APUs, 8 cores, 16 threads. Monolithic.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

I am excited about Renoir but Intel's Tiger Lake could provide a tough graphical challenge too.

Kirk Johnson
10 months ago

8K content creation capability is a big ask.

Anubias
10 months ago

AMD wants to take a bite of the 180 million units per year laptop market: Zen2, 7nm, power efficiency

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

"Building the best laptop processor"

Renoir incoming.

Jim
10 months ago

So this will be Renoir coming up...

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

"There hasn't been alot of improvement in the laptop form factor"

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

But first, laptops.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

8K is going to be a big theme for AMD's CES it seems.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

So now the focus is on gamers and creators, which I guess is PC.

Jim
10 months ago

"2020 is gonna be a bigger year than 2019" - Lisa Su

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

"2020 is gonna be a bigger year than 2019"

Kirk Johnson
10 months ago

Anubias
10 months ago

Dr. Lisa Su mentions over 20 7nm products, in production or development in 2020.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

2020 seems to be the year of the partner products.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Yea, they've implied stuff about PC but nothing explicit yet.

Jim
10 months ago

Lot's of emphasis on everything outside of the "PC" there.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Yay, Stadia!

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Montage of alot of partner made products: consoles, Surface, iMac, etc.

Jim
10 months ago

Some impressive partners - of course all these companies are partnering with AMD's rivals too in some fashion.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

AMD's partners: Microsoft, Sony, Apple, Google, Amazon, Twitter, and more.

Kirk Johnson
10 months ago

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

2019 was hyped up, how can AMD hype up 2020 even more?

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

AMD summarizing new Ryzen, Threadripper, Radeon, and Epyc products launched in 2019 on 7nm.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

"It's about making the right bets 3-5 years in advance"

Jim
10 months ago

So seems my stream was lagging and I'm a little behind...

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

HPC is up first it seems.

"Our focus"

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Lisa Su takes the stage.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

The presentation is starting.

Anubias
10 months ago

How poetic would it have been if it would cost 3990?

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Apparently the 64 core 3990X is coming this February for $3950, alot lower than I expected.

Anubias
10 months ago

There seems to be interest in the stream. More than 11K are watching already.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

I also have to wonder if Phil Spencer or some other Xbox person will be on stage given the recent teaser we got of the Xbox processor.

https://adoredtv.com/phil-spencer-teases-upcoming-xbox-processor/

Jim
10 months ago

Haha I forgot about that mess-up at Computex where they ruined the whole show before it even started.  Surely not a repeat of that this time!

Jim
10 months ago

We're being treated to some really bad elevator music while waiting on the show starting, should be 5 minutes but it's not unusual for AMD presentations to run a little late.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

The stream has started but it's just background music for now. Hopefully we see an accidental preview of what's to come like we did at Computex last year.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Yea I think it's still too early for Zen 3.

Jim
10 months ago

There was talk of a Zen 3 reveal however I think it's a bit too early for that and they'd perhaps just end up "Osborning" their current lineup.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Anandtech also reported on the first laptop to confirm to be using a Ryzen 4000 APU, the Lenovo Yoga Slim 7, coming March, starting at $700.

https://www.anandtech.com/show/15282/ces-2020-lenovo-yoga-slim-7-with-amd-4000-apu-inside-coming-march

Jim
10 months ago

Can't say I'm overly-excited by the 5600XT...

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

The 5600XT is also rumored to be $280 which is a decent price I suppose.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Image

This image actually leaked a few moments ago and I guess that's what the 5600XT looks like.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

So I think we're mostly expecting Ryzen 4000 APUs and the 5600XT.

Matthew Connatser
10 months ago

Hello everyone, welcome to the live blog for AMD's CES presentation. It's gonna start in about 15 minutes but before then we figured it would be nice to talk a little prior to the presentation just to get our expectations out there.

Jim
10 months ago

Alright guys...you can follow the presentation live on YouTube from this link

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